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Jedimaster17: You know, what strikes me is the blant hypocrisy of the situation. Everyone despised  the SSACP, (and I didn’t support them either),  for trying to take back a historic server, but hey, when Nachos want to take back a server that’s claimed, by a smaller army, who has strong grounds for belonging there, morally, I’d go with the smaller army. I’d happily bet that everyone would turn against the ACP, if we’d try anything similar, (not that we would), we’d get blasted.  No, we don’t support this because we don’t want Nachos to have more servers, they have a perfectly legitamate right, its that the server was already claimed,  and I, personally would like Nachos to remain our allies, and I agree with Boomers neutrality policy. I understand the Nachos land grant idea, and perhaps that’d work out, I’ve not enough info upon this to give judgement. I suggest that the MCP and Nachos have a meeting.

Boomer: I agree, people do like wars, but based on the fact that Person and probably all the Nachos are mad at me for standing up for a small army, I don’t want to start a war over this.  That is why I am trying to get this settled without a war, because although war is fun, prolonged war only makes doing the simplest things in an army difficult because there is no time for anything else.  There is still a bunch of stuff we need to get going, starting with the Brigades and Flag Contest, that we wouldn’t be able to do with a war on our hands.  Not to mention that the Nachos are our allies, and I would prefer to keep it that way.

Shab: I don’t care if MCP gets their server back or not. I guess my reason for war is to have fun without scheduling and stuff. Whoever wins the most wars in 1 month wins. Battles aren’t scheduled but only count when there is enought soldiers at the battle that would count as a small army (about 10 or 15 soldiers atleast).

Aber: Go ahead, go to war, but i am not going to. Acp has no right to interfer with every war that comes up. And if this causes war with nachos? Don’t blame me and the ppl who support me.

Shab: What happened to the days of the 3 month wars for no reason, the random alliances, the fun? Now its all about server limits and gov jobs that do nothing. Its a game, live a little. When oagal and zippy and pink/comp left their successors were more conservative. It got worse when uma and acp stopped fighting and rpf fell. You guys said you hated that while I was leader I declared war more easily than most leader but I bet you secretly loved the chance for war.

I joined Acp in Jan of 08. Until march Acp was in war against Uma. Every day we fought, learning tactics from different people, having fun, and not needing practice wars or even scheduled wars. I support a war against nachos not to give mcp their server but show that we don’t need governments for cp armies and we don’t need reasons to have fun. I bet the gov page jedi set up was more work than it was actually worth.

If you wanna have fun pick an army and go to war with them for a month with no scheduled battles. Try to pick an army equal to your size and don’t make it easy by ganging up on an army. Forget these crap ideas like “fun war for the hippies” and just have fun.

Rapidy: My username on ACP chat is ░▒▓Rapidy▓▒░.

Boomer: I know this is really long, and I just want to say one thing.  Person, the Nachos are a really large, and fortunate army.  MCP is just trying to establish itself.  At this point, losing their capital will destroy them.  You guys don’t really need Fjord, and I don’t even believe you need any more servers at all, but you are welcome to as many as you like.  SSACP gave up Mittens because UMA already owned it and I intervened in the war to say that.  I was the one who tried to talk Maz out of that anyway because I knew what we were doing was wrong.  All of you felt it was wrong too.  But suddenly it’s okay to go ahead and steal another army’s server.  The only thing that changed between the SSACP situation and this one is the size of the army who owns the server.  You say you aren’t taking advantage them because they are smaller than you, but I can’t see any reason that this should be different than the SSACP situation.  I urge you to reconsider another server, and like I said, there are quite a few servers available from when we dropped some and you can take them all, no one will mind.  The fact of the matter is, you will be taking away a server that means as much to MCP as White House and Blizzard mean to the Nachos, Snow Fort means to ACP, and Tuxedo means to RPF.  Just please think about what you are doing.

Aber: I personally think ACP shouldn’t get involved in this war. I mean, we always get involved and then end up fighting our allies! Why risk it? Just don’t get involved xD.

Boomer’s Note: We’re not, but that doesn’t mean it’s not wrong, and I’m not going to do nothing…

Boomer’s Edit:  Here is Person’s response to my argument, and my response back:

Person: NO. We are not taking MCP’s capital because we are bigger than them. I don’t know where the hell that idea started, because those were NOT our intentions. We felt that as being the 2nd largest army on Club Penguin, we should regain one of the servers that we gave up. We picked Fjord because of historic values. We would invade Fjord if MCP didn’t exist -.- ACP has 12 servers, and Nachos aren’t allowed to have 3? WOW.

Boomer: Isn’t this the same thing as when SSACP wanted Mittens back, except UMA already had it, so they couldn’t get it?

“We felt that as being the 2nd largest army on Club Penguin, we should regain one of the servers that we gave up.” – You just said that being a big army gives you that right, which is what you denied earlier 😐 .  

“We picked Fjord because of historic values.” – And SSACP wanted Mittens because it was their old capital…

“We would invade Fjord if MCP didn’t exist -.- ACP has 12 servers, and Nachos aren’t allowed to have 3? WOW.” – You can have as many servers as you want, just pick ones that aren’t already owned by someone.  ACP even has servers left over that we dropped, and I would be happy to give you any of those in exchange.  You have to realize that MCP is an army that is trying to get started, and you are about to take away the server that means the most to them.  Imagine that the Nachos were a new army and ACPdecided to reclaim Blizzard.  I’m pretty sure you would be really pissed about that.  Put yourself in their shoes.  I’m sure it will help your image with the small armies here if you stand up for what is right…

In response to Shadow:

“ACP has left a part of a post saying we are taking Fjord back b/c were bigger than MCP. Wrong. This is also going against one of Boomer’s older policies. If any of you have looked at recent history, when SSACP came back, they wanted to take Mittens from UMA. Boomer agreed that SSACP should have Mittens. [not even close] I can compare our situation and that one. I see this as a Nacho growth oppurtunity right after a revival. So I think we should have our old server back.”

Boomer: I wanted Mittens, but I admitted that SSACP was not an army, and I acknowledged the fact that UMA owned Mittens.  In case you weren’t paying attention, I was the one who called the war off once Maz quit because I was livid that he would risk SSACP over a server.  I even blame myself for the fact that Maz quit because I threatened to take action against SSACP with ACP if he did not end the war.  

In case you need a reminder…

“I was talking to Bat about negotiations for Mittens, and he said that UMA is planning to cut theirs servers to only Mittens and Frozen.  This is the reason that UMAdoesn’t want to split Mittens, because they do not intendto expand their servers to make up for it, because in fact they are trying to reduce their servers.  There is no room for negotiation here, so I am requesting that SSACP, as part of ACP, pick a new server.  If you pull out of this war, ACP will give you whatever of our servers you want.  Otherwise, ACP may consider taking action against SSACP because all of this is harming our alliance with UMA.  ACP will always help SSACP as much as it can, but once conflict between allies takes place, we must do what we can to end the conflict.”

You can check all of that here:

http://ssacpsecretspyagencyofclubpenguin.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/nothings-convinced-me-yet/

You read that one entirely wrong…

If I can repeat myself, please pick a new server, think of what it will do to MCP…

Whoever this was:

“ANOTHER thing, is that ACP steals servers from smaller and medium armies all the time. Everytime they change their nations they do it. Do they have a land grant system set up for the servers they invaded? No. Did the Nachos set up one? Yes.”

Boomer: We haven’t changed our servers since we voted for Governors in September and we had them even before that.  That is why we never have server conflicts…you only have two servers, and you just had to schedule a battle to control another army who was there.  Also, we do have a land grant system, and there are many smaller allies of ACP that own our servers as well (we even gave a land grant to Snow Fort, which is our main server).  You just established your land grant system today...

Next point, Person, I am really disappointed in you…

You made a claim for Fjord, andwhen you found out it was MCP’s capital, you laughed and said, ” Oh well! Once we turn it into Nacho territory, you can sell Nacho T-shirts if you’d like.”  For one thing, it was foolish to think you could claim a server without checking if anyone owned it.  But it’s another thing to completely disregard the fact that they already own it.  Just because they are smaller than you, you think you can take them over?  Soundfamiliar?  Maybe Hitler invading Polandin WWII?  That’s like Great Britain saying, “Hey, New Jersey would be a great place for a British vacation territory, so I think I’ll just take it because they can’t defend themselves against us…

Of course you can’t take New Jersey without dealing with the U.S., and Person, you are picking on one of our closest allies.  And frankly, I’m not very happy…

Practice in Review/Person, I am Disappointed…

Here is the practice stuff that I should have posted over the weekend, only other stuff intervened:

Overall, the practice went excellently.  The Omega and the Renegade provided the entertainment with classic songs like “Down with Boomer” and “ACP is Evil”, and “Bringing Crazy Back”.  Plus the new tactic went nicely.  It was a way to utilize the circle thing that we had been doing for fun by giving it a use in battle.  The first step is to surround the opponent (speed is more important than making a perfect circle), followed by a unified charge at the group in the center.  We executed this at least 5 times at the practice, and I was very impressed.  First, some tips:

When to use this:

  • When facing a small group who are towards the center of the room
  • When facing a larger group that is standing close together and is not able to move easily
  • When an army is switching rooms and is appearing in the center of the room

How to execute it properly:

  • Quickly form a circle around the opponent, surrounding them
  • Stay quiet and wait for the signal to charge
  • Charge those in the center and use a clover bomb (this works best if you only tighten the circle rather than all moving to the center because it takes up more space)

Now for the pics! – Thanks to Dryvit, Baloon, and Bat for being our practice “smarties” 😆

We tried to start at the Snow Forts, but we couldn’t really grasp the concept of the center since there isn’t a clear center there, so we moved to the Ice Rink, which was an easier shape to start with.  The first circle took just under 5 minutes, which was much faster than some of our previous tries, and this was our first charge.

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A quick regroup, and we formed another circle in around 10 seconds!  That’s the kind of speed we want.

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Another charge

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Another regroup and another charge

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We moved to the Snow Forts, and succeeded with the tactic in a much bigger room.

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That was a massive circle!  I’m looking at a good 60 soldiers there.

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Another charge

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A modified charge I had, where we lined up on the wall and charged from just one side.

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Person gave us bad coffee, so we charged the counter 😛

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Why thank you kind sir! 😀

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Not really anything interesting to charge at here, so we settled on the red spring thingy 😕

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Regrouping at the top for another charge

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We sunk the boat (sorry CP) 😐

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Rockhopper, ye and your ship be ours 😉

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We circled the ship and stormed the door to the hold.

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We circled the Iceberg and charged yet again.

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We went to the Dojo to do some suicides (that’s a sprinting drill lol).

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To the left

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And back…

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We did a couple more sprints, and then we ran a marathon from the Mountain to the Cove (no pics in between, it went too fast 😛 ).  At the Cove. we had a Green party to close it out.

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Thanks to everyone who came!  For those of you who didn’t try to make the next one, and study up on this tactic.  You might be seeing it again.

If you did make it, please comment (it will help me when promo day comes around, but don’t lie, cause I think the pics to check…)

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Next point, Person, I am really disappointed in you…

You made a claim for Fjord, and when you found out it was MCP’s capital, you laughed and said, ” Oh well! Once we turn it into Nacho territory, you can sell Nacho T-shirts if you’d like.”  For one thing, it was foolish to think you could claim a server without checking if anyone owned it.  But it’s another thing to completely disregard the fact that they already own it.  Just because they are smaller than you, you think you can take them over?  Sound familiar?  Maybe Hitler invading Poland in WWII?  That’s like Great Britain saying, “Hey, New Jersey would be a great place for a British vacation territory, so I think I’ll just take it because they can’t defend themselves against us…

Of course you can’t take New Jersey without dealing with the U.S., and Person, you are picking on one of our closest allies.  And frankly, I’m not very happy…

Poll Time…

Is what the Nachos doing fair?  Tell me what you think.

~Boomer

P.S.~The results of the poll were running around “Yes Jungle is active – 8″, “No he’s not – 80+” before it was hacked 😐

So yeah…